Ask The Legend: Rance Mulliniks Answers Your Most Nostalgic Jays Questions

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now let's talk, so to run a Blue J's baseball.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Hello, and good evening, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to Jaybird watching.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I am your host, Craig Borden.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to have a wonderful fun time talking all sorts of ask that Blue Jay legend, Rans Monix.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So before I say hi to Jason, I just said Rans already.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So Rans, welcome back to the show.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We got you three times like in a month and a half.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's great to be back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So how things go and stay in a little warmer down there in the Al Paso area?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm not now passing on back home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's for us it's been cold, but I'm not going to compare that to the great white north.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you should see we've got an atmospheric river going on right now, which I've coined that term a couple of times on this show just so people can Google it and go look.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But we're expecting upwards of 100 millimeters of rain within 24 hours or so.

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[SPEAKER_03]: which is a lot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My kids came in like drowned rats, walking a couple of blocks for school to hear.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you can't do much.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's kind of, it kind of wrecks the Christmas spirit a little bit, but there's a lot of lights out right now and I'm excited to sort of get to the break and with Christmas on a Wednesday, I believe it is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It makes for some weird days off and weird time off, but

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[SPEAKER_03]: Excited to get there and there's tons of baseball stuff going on unexpectedly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, with the winning.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's that time of the year

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so let's just start right there, Rans.

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[SPEAKER_04]: When you were playing, what's the winner meetings this big of a deal?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because obviously, there's a little bit more of it these days because there's all the social media.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's every baseball report you can humanly think of.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But do you remember any crazy stories outside of probably the Tony Fernandez, Joe Carter, Fred McGriff traded that back when that were just like fresh in your memories?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think to your point, because of social media,

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[SPEAKER_01]: and the access that everybody has to information today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's created a lot more interest, a lot more opinions, but not really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that I think it's been magnified because of social media and the access that everyone has just, I mean, minute to minute,

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[SPEAKER_01]: information as to what's going on, trade rumors, who may be signed by whom, et cetera.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I hope too much information is created.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that that makes it a lot more interesting for a lot of people who otherwise, back when I played my generation, you didn't have access to just constant feeds as to updates as to what's actually transpiring in conversations.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like a weird phone call with your best buddy Todd or something like that to get your information, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Good old Todd.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it's super interesting, like I, you know, there's a bunch of deals that have gone down today and, and, you know, of course back even five years ago, I don't think we would have heard about some of the, the rule five deals and, and the minor league deals and stuff for at least another couple of weeks, like sort of until they formulated and hit the associated press and roll out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, like I was being inundated today as soon as Peter Lanzo signed or was, you know, agreed to something, it seemed like the floodgates opened up on a whole bunch of conversations, you know, Kyle Schwarber staying in Philly, but it's for me, you know, I was saying to Craig just before we came on, like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Normally like you even last year when the winter meetings were on like nothing happened like there was nothing going on in blue jadeum And now they're talking about I've read a report today that the jays management talked to Bulbashet and Tucker today Both of them and so they're not they're not backing off of any of these you know any of these possibilities and and for me

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[SPEAKER_03]: as a fan and part of the media.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love the fact that they finally just pedal down that see what we can do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then, Rans, I don't know if you saw the other, they're looking at the guy out of the Japanese league again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the report that Craig and I found, which seems legit, says that they've signed up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It says that they're going to release

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[SPEAKER_03]: So again, I don't know the thing about that one, it seems a little murky at the time, like it says, I don't like to leave everything, but I mean, this, this, this Toronto baseball insider is one that I, I mean, like, like when the, when the Dylan sea stuff popped, they were the first people to have it, and now they're working, but, um, okay, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it also challenges all of us to try to sift through what is actually real, what is actually has potential and it's to happen as opposed to what isn't and what's really important and what's really not we have to sift through that lot of rule five stuff there's going to be some things that you know in terms of trades and everything that really aren't that impactful or that significant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it does forces to kind of sit through or same through things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What really matters in BlueJay land today?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think one of the one is Resign Bobship.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Which is our actual first fanquestion right now, is what we get them back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then actually, and then, you know, I know there's been a lot of talk about this outfielder, Kyle Tucker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not Tucker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which, you know, based upon his stats, I think it would be a great addition,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think where we are today in BlueJay land as fans is Boba Shet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And the beauty of the Boba Shet situation is it sounds for some reason that even though the Boston Red Sox were kicking the tires on trying to bring Boba Shet into Boston, it sounds like they kind of went and walked away already, they might just be attacked it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But as far as these kind of things go, it sounds like the asking price is proper for the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, again, I'm not up to date on anything that may be Boston's down or not, but done in terms of what they're offering, but it's going to obviously take a significant amount of money to sign Bobushet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the Blue Jays, you know, to me, the Blue Jays and

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we really don't know, which is probably maybe a good thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think we have to believe that the blue jazer making every effort to sign, boba shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as we all know, we hear a lot of different conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We hear a lot of different opinions, a lot of different thoughts, especially this time of the year in the winter meetings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And lots of times things change very, very quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think as we get closer to the end of the week and the winter meetings, it's when we're really gonna know how this is all gonna shake out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that it's, I think that the, the Vladis, the Vladis signing has shown us the way that the blue jays are going to do business moving forwards.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like they realize what, you know, is out there, the speed at which things hit, you know, people's eyes as well as, you know, the players eyes as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they've, they've really made an effort to be like, you know what, we're keeping this all really close to the best.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're not any of those things and truthfully, I feel like they got a decent shot at both.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I think they're gonna sign both.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I feel like they're not gonna let that relationship and the quality of bat escape them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, it'd be interesting if they got Tucker that really changes the outfield and really make some put some guys on blast that made a thought, might have thought, they were, you know, locks for the roster this year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, including our general manager, they are not our actual manager saying that same thing the other earlier today.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, I'm assuming you're alluding to Anthony Santander and that equation Jason.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think you can see play.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's Santander.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of questions in the outfield, but let's, let's be honest.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And if they get bring Tucker in, that creates probably three or four more questions, whether they want them to or not.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think there's this whole thing about Kyle Tucker too, that one of our buddies in the chat might be is mentioning, I want Tucker bad, but the mats are now going to go officially full on hard for the, you know, Cody Bellinger and.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Kyle Tucker, I think at this point because they just lost out on Pete Alonzo to the Orioles for the next five seasons.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So there is that and can we can we it also, you know, I don't know if you as agreed with me or not, but I kind of for a team that I've never really disliked a lot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The Dodgers are still sure trying to make it so everybody hates them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I mean,

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[SPEAKER_03]: you know, they go out and they get Edwin Diaz, they just, and they just don't care.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, how much money do you want?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Throw it on the pile, like whatever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I like the fact that, you know, there's lots of guys that are out there right now that are basically like, like charging themselves up to, to go against the Dodgers this year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I, I think they may get a route awakening as good as they are this year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, for teams just coming for them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, remember how the Yankees used to play everybody and everybody played up against the Yankees trying to put them in their place.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's that situation.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Rans, when you were playing in your days or even just being around the game all the years, is there something to that that you just you get amped up the play against the best of the best and you just go out there and leave it all on the field?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I think that's a natural thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you realize if you want to be a champion,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to have that kind of desire to say we need to go out here and see how we match up against the best and can we compete against them and do we have what it takes to compete against them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a natural thing for anybody or any ball club that wants to potentially be a world championship team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: back in the 80s and the early 90s with the blue jays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did have an attitude as a ball club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't matter who we were playing or where we were playing, which maybe even be a little bit more important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't care if we were a Yankee stadium, we didn't care if we were a Fenway Park.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We felt like you are up against us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're the bad guys in this situation and we're here to beat you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's an necessary attitude to have,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think any, I think the competitive side of an athlete says if you really want to be a champion, you have to say, all right, how do we match up against the best of the best, how do we match up against the Dodgers, the Yankees any number of other clubs you can go around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just picture team and I think you played in the Oakland A's were the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were Oh my god, they were they were they were a great ball club at that time But I think if we go to the blue jays of today, I think they demonstrated that that's the attitude they have They're not intimidated by anybody They are supremely confident in their ability to win

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, let's face it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They came with an out within an outer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, or one in, for instance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or a being a world champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I, if we go back to Bo-Shet, Bo-Shet for a minute, I think there's a lot going on behind the scenes, which leads me to believe that Bo if they can work it out, I think his preference is to stay with the Blue Jays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as it relates, let's say, if we can go to this to anybody else that there may be trying to sign, in particular, this, this outfielder who I think is an outstanding player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what it comes down to is are you willing to stand Toronto and be a part of a great organization in the championship team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: here within a reasonable time for him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Aaron Boone, I mean, I don't know if you guys heard it or not this week, but Aaron Boone, for the first, I've never heard a manager ever say this ever, was he was like, the jays were better than us all year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They beat us up, they beat us around, they showed us what it's like to play team baseball, they were better than us.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that the interesting thing to what you said there are rances,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if, I mean, Rogers pockets are ridiculously deep.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if Beau has to take a haircut to stay in Toronto.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the beautiful thing about what we're dealing with here is we're dealing with a pretty deep pot of money.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so if Beau asks for 30 million or, you know, I think most people are talking sort of in that, what are we, what were they driving like 22 or 23 or somewhere in that wheelhouse?

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[SPEAKER_03]: you know, see where they go from there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they've got lots of money.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know Kyle Tucker's going to be asking for a heap of change, too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they, they, they, they signed in pictures for five to seven years, which is kind of scary sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, I think that, that we're in an era right now with this management group where they've kind of said, you know, the checkbooks here, you know, write your numbers down and we'll, we'll see in the world series every year for

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do believe that if the blue jays, obviously sometimes you can't sign someone that you want for any number of reasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I believe if the blue jays are able to be sure of what they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: either in keeping somebody or in addition to the ball club, this is a team that over the next five or six years has the chance to be very special.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as it comes to Kyle Turk, I mean, we already know what we have in Babushia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a tremendous player, tremendous hitter, tremendous team player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's motivated to win a championship, which I think is critical.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you bring in Kyle Tucker, assuming you said,

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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, that I would want as a team member as a member of the organization, is this someone that comes in who is a real good fit for our ball club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In other words, he wants to play to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to win a championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not about individual statistics, et cetera.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a real good addition in terms of his attitude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to bring somebody in that maybe a tremendous player,

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[SPEAKER_01]: some of those special qualities that you need, maybe he's a little bit of a disruption in the clubhouse, et cetera, that's not what you want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying that if we never had any of those, don't worry, we're not saying that you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And as you saying that the Yankees are a dysfunctional ball club because they just fall in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm not saying that the Yankees are dysfunctional.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what I am saying is, where the Blue Jays are today,

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[SPEAKER_01]: that yeah, you want to add a talented player that can really contribute on the field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no question about that, but you don't want to have a problem child either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That can be a disruption in the clubhouse or distraction away from what you're trying to accomplish.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's critical and especially seeing all the stuff that we saw even in interviews with players the stuff after the world series everything this club houses is tight is a humanly possibly can be and I'm a big believer that chemistry is worth just as much as anything else for putting out on the field.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's some really, really bad quote-unquote talented teams.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And we were some of the best teams in a league just because we knew how to play each other and pick up for one another.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was a true team thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I do truly believe that this BlueJay's team, the glue is just solid.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The foundation is built.

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[SPEAKER_04]: to your point.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You bring back, bow, you bring in some other pieces.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They have to fit that puzzle.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Otherwise, you're just going to have some kind of a weird match in things that I'm going to land, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that is what I loved about hearing what they've don't cease finally was able to talk to the media the last couple of days during the winter meetings.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Blue Jays is through a giant brick funny for him to be their true ace for the coming.

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[SPEAKER_04]: future because don't forget, after this year, the pitching staff is going to get a little even more rocky.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to lose gotsmen potentially and so on and so forth.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's already all these trade rumors about burios and then somewhere else potentially and it's just crazy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So now we have another gentleman that's coming in and filling this void and even though he's saying all the right things, it's not

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[SPEAKER_04]: lip service to me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's he's been stating he wanted to come to the blue jays.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He told Scott Boris.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He wanted to come to the blue jays.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to get the best deal he can, but that's where he thought he would be able to be at his best.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that is the best way to say it because if he's at his best, that means the teams at his best and so on and so forth and it just really moves through it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I thought that was really, really nice to them to be talking in that mantra.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, it's very good to hear that, but to your point, I believe this, anyone who is a free agent right now and has a chance to come to the Toronto Blue Jays, that if they really want to win, I believe

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[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of those guys, they're motivated to come to Toronto right now, because look, players see how other teams play the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you look at a team like Toronto and you say, they play at the right way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Their goal is to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not an individual statistic situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a me, me, eye situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a situation where they want to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to go there because that is my ultimate goal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to make a lot of money and I want to get what I feel I worth in terms of value.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I can get that in Toronto and have a chance to win, I've got the best of both worlds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I can go back for a moment and talk about the importance of bringing somebody in whose goal really is to win a championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you two, we brought in Dave Winfield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can tell you, Dave's goal was to win a World Series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he made that very clear from day one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The next year, they bring in Paul Molotor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul's goal was to win a World Series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They ended up winning a World Series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't mean it's going to guarantee anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you brought in two people who are now Hall of Famers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're already Hall of Famers when you brought them to the ball club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the moment, there go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They wanted to win a World Series championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when they came in, they were a positive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they let everybody in the clubhouse know, this is why I'm here, I want to win a championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think it's critical that any addition that the Blue Jays make now is has that type of attitude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Boba Chet is obviously clearly demonstrated that he wants to win a championship.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think he got teased at it because you know he had to have been his good as he played in the world series on a bum knee.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know he wanted to be in that whole race not just sitting there on the dugout.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I just can't have had the biggest mindset.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, hey, the biggest home run of the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he obviously did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I can revert back, just if we can just take a step back and for a moment, I saw a comment today that Aaron Boone, he said, well, you know, we match the blue jays and record during the regular season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But let me throw this out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The blue jays played without boba shut the last month of season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They play me really, basically without the last, without the last month, the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted to do a basket in the middle of September, went on the deal and missed the rest of the regular season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what would the Blue Jays record have been if all three of those are healthy through September?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I say they went 102, maybe 103 games.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, or even this one to that point, call up your savage a few weeks early.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, it's been 10 there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been 10 there, it's been 10 there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I guess we all understand the point is that I definitely feel like, although they had their regular season records, we're the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still feel like a healthy blue jay ball club was four or five, maybe in six games better than the Yankees during the regular season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I will say this though, I think that that interestingly, this was probably one of the healthiest years the jays have had in a long time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There was, there was, I mean, you're never going to go the whole year without going to be ever for.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, it was, it was very healthy till they got to September.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The grind started out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: San Tander, you know, unfortunately, missed most of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's hope that he's completely healthy because I think he can be a big contributor going into 20, 26.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's, let's hope that he's, he's 100% by then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that where the blue jays are right now is if they are able to sign the shed and make a couple of other maybe sign Kyle Tucker bring him in they're in a position to where they can just do nothing but get better and stay better for the next five or six years and really have a great opportunity to win a world series.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just really cool to see what they've been seeing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This has been the most fun offseason I can remember.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Part of it's because you do like we were talking about at the beginning of the show, you hear about it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't, it's like not the great shuffle that we saw.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, even leading into those years for the world series with you and everybody in ninety two and ninety three there was that whole in the early nineties where we've literally changed all stars around.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm our encarter and then lose in Tony and and the crime dog friend McGriff.

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[SPEAKER_04]: These, obviously, that's part of the offseason.

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[SPEAKER_04]: These things these pieces move in and out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They're trying to put the best team on the field.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I truly think that Rogers and everybody with this team for the first time and a very, very long time, it feels like that mantra.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We always got that little cool sexy move here or this thing happened there but this is just you can tell they are not trying to let off the gas.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This thing is going to the world series are bust one way or the other at this point and I think that's a true confidence thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think you're spot on with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Blue Jays realized they are in a very unique position.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a window that closes very quickly, but if you can do some things right now that are great additions to your ball club, you have a chance to really be special for the next five or six years and I think they see that opportunity and I I truly believe they're making every effort to seize you know to capitalize on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be very interesting here in the next few days to see how this all starts to shake out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So one really cool thing that was actually funny enough, I think the MVP pickup of all last off season was awarded something very, very cool today.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Did you all see that the BlueJays hitting coach Dave Popkins was actually awarded the MLB coach of the year award today?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not see that, but congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, from what I think that not having a conversation with the man, but just seeing how the blue jays this year offensively, they didn't strike out at a prolific rate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They made a lot of contact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They made effort to move runners, emphasis on doing some little things kind of a taking a step

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[SPEAKER_01]: that the past generation had to wear it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's make more contact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's cut down on the strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's move runners along those types of things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was probably a challenge for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe, or maybe not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they get players to buy into that, which goes back to the whole team concept.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was able,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think just as an outsider watching the Blue Jays perform, give them the buy-in to look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If we cut down on the strikeouts, we make more contact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We move runners along, we hit behind runners, etc.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to make us more successful and make us more productive overall than just in terms of slugging and hitting a ball out of the ballpark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our on-base percentage is going to go on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go up.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: our batting average with runners in position is going to go up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in other words, we're going to see an improvement across the board and all of these categories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so congratulations to Tom Weldeser.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Jason, take me back one year prior before this epic rise that was here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We had this different mantra that was clearly busted and it was getting too many strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They were focusing too much, I think, on just

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[SPEAKER_04]: The information crazy that is turned in the Adolf Alex and the baseball game.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What is that been the defining new role in the blue jays that day popgins and company ended up pushing and how that became night and day for us?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like the big like George Springer spoke about it a few times during the year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I felt like Addison Barger when just before the playoffs started, excuse me, he was mentioning how pop had had sort of just talked to him about this and that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like nothing that was too to severe.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that the the biggest change that I saw from the Jay is this year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: was that they went to the plate with purpose every single time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It didn't matter if it was 12 nothing for the J's, a two-one game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It didn't matter at all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They had a purpose.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They knew what their plan was when they were going into the box and they were executing on it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's, you look at a guy like her and he Clement.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: No one needs an excellent baseball player.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm never going to take anything away from Ernie's baseball skill or any of that other stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But can you honestly look me in the face and say that two years ago when you and I were talking about Ernie come in, he would be the best contact guy in the league.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he has elite contact levels.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Alejandro Kirk, elite contact numbers, Bulbashet, elite contact numbers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, when you're as good as they are in your strong as they are, those balls start to go out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So the guys that jumped on the the bandwagon this year, we saw the biggest jumps with.

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[SPEAKER_03]: George Springer is first and foremost.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He changed very little in his swing other than a slight drop and a longer path through the zone, which popped up about at the start of the year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When we were watching spring training, we talked about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What we were like, who are these guys?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, Jim and as was, Jim and as was going like four for four every game, it was like, it's pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This is where I will probably pay for a bag.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and you start to to make those small little adjustments and like grants are saying it's it's a full buy in and once you you give yourself into the game and to make changes and realize that maybe the way you weren't you been doing it for the last 15 years isn't the best way to do it you know you can revert a little bit like let's be honest the swing the barger took it at the ball he hit 4,000 miles the grand slam.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That wasn't a contact swing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He wasn't trying to hit a single into the gap.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He was trying to put a hole in the back of the stadium, which, again, to me, sees the advancement of a hitter like him where he can, you know, he can go all gas or he can hit a ball into a gap and use his speed or, I mean, we even saw with Nathan Alux and so on, they could lay down a bunch and try and, you know,

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was a whole different buy-in, and it started in spring training, and it started with pop, and it's a great that you got the award, and I feel like looking at the around the league, there's about five or six guys like him that are going to be the next gen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like the next generation of managers is about to have their clean out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like there's a lot of guys who've been doing this job for a long time in the majors, and it

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's about time to hit that sort of recycle button on about 15 teams in the majors and get some young blood in there and get some guys that are willing to steal three bases in an inning or but twice or you know the game is always evolving Jason as the boss.

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[SPEAKER_04]: part of the game.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's always some way looking for an edge.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't matter what area play in.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's always something and I love that this brand of baseball.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's finally hit the damn ball and play.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's starting to come back a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's starting to come back and vote a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to Jason's point, I think I take two words from what he said there is buy in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the great challenges that you have as a manager or a hitting coach, pitching coach,

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[SPEAKER_01]: is can you get the players to buy in the what you're trying to get them to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a great illustration is what he just described with George Springer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is a great challenge because you're dealing with athletes that have experienced unbelievable success.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doing things that they're accustomed to doing, but to set them down and say, look,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's where you can be a little bit better in some situations that's going to not only help you be better, maybe as a player, but most certainly is going to help us be better as a team and help us win ball games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're just willing to buy into that, and that's a challenge that is can be very difficult overcome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and get the players to buy in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will say this, and I think I said it earlier, maybe in one of our podcasts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When I was in Toronto in September, I was watching a game that they're playing the Houston Astros.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Runner, second base, nobody else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Vladimir Guerrero hits a hard ground ball to first base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was clear to me as somebody who played, that he was definitely

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[SPEAKER_01]: trying to hit the ball of the right side in the event that he did not get a base yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was going to move that runner to third.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so two points here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, that says to me, Vladimir Guerrero is playing the win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's first and foremost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it also says that Vladimir Guerrero knows that the guy that's hitting behind him is going to make every effort to put the ball and play and score that run and not strike out swinging for the fences.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it doesn't get any better than that guys when you have that kind of combination working you are a difficult team to be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's so true.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, the other thing that the J said going for them this year, which was similar to the way that the Dodgers and the Philly's operate is its fear tip to tail.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like they were scary from start to finish.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like there was no, there was no pitching around Flatty to get to Bow or no pitching around Bow to get to early, cool men or, you know what I mean, like anybody's the fact that even honors him and has was sitting at the end of the season, finally when he got some legs underneath them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He was not healthy at the whole season and he definitely showed that he got came back strong at the end of that jazin.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So you tip the tail, your percent is the right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's great point because prior to the start of the World Series, I heard Derek Geter said, you know, he was very complimented in the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, you know, they're kind of a jogger, not type team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And personally, I think he had him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, I don't think he

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what he did say about the Jays is they have unbelievable depth in their line up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what that is simply saying to the point that both of you have just made is that there is no weak link.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So pick your poison.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, when you got somebody to give a Schneider, I can come off the bench and just knock a home run.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You got early Clement that's going to grind every little pitch out of it, you know, Kirk in Thailand and even kind of great season is the backup catcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So pick your poison.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, anything good.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Taylor makes a great point here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't put the comment up, but I think I got that one from Taylor and about Bass at Taylor's or and I think we were actually going to go to fan questions because I've getting flooded all of a sudden and I want to make it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it seems to be just up here from rants.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think everybody just got home because the act the people on x just exploded.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We went up like 100 people.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyways.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think this is a great point because, you know, just what you said, Rants, is I feel like the MLB on whole knows right now that the Jays have a good chemistry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They have a good locker room.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They have a good thing going on right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, of course, losing Bassett and Sherser would not be great for the chemistry of the Jays.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I feel like the leaders on this team make it so that anyone that comes in feels you know feels that love and I've noticed it the one thing that I've noticed that I didn't see and I've never seen ever before do you know who's still in Toronto right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: George Springer George Springer is still in Toronto.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He left for a bit, but he's come back like four times even just in the world series to do events.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He did a thing with a girl who had a liver transplant.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, he is now becoming the third pillar with bow.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Bloody bull bo and bloody.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the interesting thing for me is the guys like comment and Luke's and the, you know, to take one from our good friend Travis, the lunch pale guys are now becoming stars in the city and, and stars in the league.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's a big difference.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When you're a star in the city, that's great people love the, like Kirk was a star in the city for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And Craig, I mean, you've always talked about and crushing the baseball when you saw him in the minors.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I saw him in the bluefield.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we knew he was like, That was his guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then he gets into the all-star team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the whole of America is like, Who is this guy?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, like, look at him and all it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then they're like, Oh, right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like potentially the best contact cater of the last 10 years.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, I got to tell Rans that story and anybody else that hadn't heard that one.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, I actually, I traveled for my day job for a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I happened to be right next to Bluefield, Lester, Virginia.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, the Bluefield BlueJays were the Appalachian League rookie level for the Toronto BlueJays at the time before, you know, certain politics is ruined the minor leagues in the last couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I contacted my buddy Zach that was the announcer and I said, hey, I'm gonna be in town.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'd be nice to actually see you in person for a change.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So he goes, yeah, yeah, come on over.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I sit down on the booth with him and I wasn't expecting him to hand me a microphone, but that worked out really well and we got the chip chat and everything he goes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Now Craig, just remember, everybody, when they see Alejandro Kirk go up to the plate, they stop doing whatever they're doing and they watch.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, okay, I'm interested.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm intrigued.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Tell, why is it coming up?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he goes these up in two batteries, he's batting in a three-hall tonight.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I see this little short stocky of a man come up to the plate.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He taps the plate twice, takes ball one, takes ball two, and then the third pitch of that at bat rants goes right down the pipe and he knocks it over the batters eye and dead center field into the west Virginia wilderness.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I couldn't believe it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was just,

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[SPEAKER_04]: solid contact to have that crazy click that you don't hear from certain players and I couldn't believe it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was so happy and I've been loving the fact that Zack and I get the keep talking about him to this day in a blue jazzy uniform.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just a beauty thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's he is He you know, he's not someone that you look at and go oh there's a there's a tremendous athlete or hitter

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[SPEAKER_01]: But athletes and hitters come in all shapes and sizes and most certainly he's proven that he is definitely that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I'll throw this in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of my best personal friends for many, many years now from Scarborough, Ontario, was a tremendous golfer in his day, played all over the world, named Rick Todd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And his dad who still living Ernie is about 95 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And his favorite player is Alejandro Kirk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just want to throw a game recognize the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to personal note, but Ernie, yeah, he loves Alejandro Kirk because he said, that man can hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can hit.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he sure is how he can hit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was happy as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He was able to show his defensive prowess is what I mean, you know, he's he's a way better catcher than people give him credit for so, you know, good for him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm glad I'm also glad I want to go a lot before it's over with Jason, so and it's nice that the, you know, the big dumpper was able to sort of shine the light back on the really good catchers at the majors, do I mean, it's such an unsung job.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you look at a guy like Sal Perez who's still like what is he 41 I think and he's still, you know, bending down a thousand times a game You know, like Adley Rushman and you've got all these got you've got all these stars that are coming up and it's just nice that the spot like gets on the The cat.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have one of my sons as a catcher, so it's nice to it's nice to see them get their their due because they do run they do run the as much as the, you know, the bench is calling pitches and all the rest, but they run the they run the show

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it does, and I think I can say through experience not having played the position, but having played that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the most the probably the most there's no one that would exceed a catcher in terms of mental and physical toughness to play the game because of the responsibility that goes with it and we are I mean obviously if you sit in watch baseball nobody takes more of a physical beating day in day out so reason they call the call the catching gear the tools of ignorance

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[SPEAKER_01]: Number one, call again, number two, physically take the beating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Number three, be able to, I think if you really take pride in what you're doing as a catcher, you understand your pitchers and your pitching staff, you know the guy that needs sometimes need to, you need to get on a little bit, maybe kick him in a rear end and he responds well of that, and the guy that you need to go out there and kind of massage a little bit, tell him, hey, you're gonna be okay here, let's,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, let's just calm down whatever because they're different personalities.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's an enormous amount of responsibility that goes with being a catcher.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And why they all become managers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's been as one of the reasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was an infilver my entire career, obviously, DH some, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have to understand the personalities of the pictures on the ball club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have to sit there behind the plate and help get them through a game and go to the mound and occasionally chew on somebody a little bit or go out there and say, hey, you know, calm down, you're gonna be all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything's gonna be okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Couple of good pitches here and we're out of this situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so enormous amounts of responsibility.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have great admiration

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we got a ton of fan questions going on.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to make sure that some of these getting answered and took Chichet on here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And by the way, if you are in the chat, I'm on TikTok Instagram, YouTube, whatever, just hit me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I can see all of it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we're doing our best.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're doing our best, but I'm my god.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I cut too many windows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I told what, but pick a few out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take an attempt and answer it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, let's go.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So Maple League baseball around our Instagram questions is asking how would you compare the disappointment of the 2025 BlueJace felt in the clubhouse to what you and the wonderful gang you played with to the 1987 BlueJace France.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That was obviously you were in inches for that year too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, that was a terrible disappointment, and that actually was the toughest loss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, as an individual, and I think maybe even as an organization experience, but I don't think that compares to getting without getting to within one cleaning in the eighth or the ninth of being a World Series championship, I would find that more disappointing because you're so close to winning it all, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but, you know, when you get the postseason, there's no guarantees, but when you get as close as the Jayston this year, I don't, I, that's got to be far more difficult to take than what we experienced in 87.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: His follow-up to that whole thing is how do you retool, how do you overcome that point and get ready to go for the next season?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think you, you build off the positives, you know, you, you say, you know, we had a great year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's go to spring training next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's put our nose back to the grindstone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't take anything for granted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know it's going to be a tough season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a long 162 games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we got to bear down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to get after it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the first goal is to win the division, get back to the postseason, and then we roll from there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I honestly think that that's the attitude the Blue Jays will have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that we've talked about a lot during this conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the way the blue jays go about their business and their attitude and their desire to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's just going to we're going to see that replay itself out next season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That is a wonderful way.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just love that get back to it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the beauty of baseball.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You, you know, in the regular season, it's like, okay, I screwed up today.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Good thing you're playing another one tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think I think a great demonstration of

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[SPEAKER_01]: of the character in what you're made of is how do you respond to adversity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In this case, coming that close to winning a world series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the challenge now is, let us go into 2026 and prove to everybody that we have what it takes to come back from that rebound back and have a great season in 2026.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's their challenge.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I feel like the run that they went on proved a lot to them and to the rest of the league.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they had to take on some pretty big teams to get to where they got to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They had to win some massive games, some really huge adversity.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And all these other things, and I really feel like it's going to mold the jays for the next three to five years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the next three years their expectation should be just what you said.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Rans playoffs deep into them challenging for a world series again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then obviously you're going to start to lose players.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to start to see changes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to start to see have things happen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But if they can take anything from the team that they just lost to, they can start to see okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So if we start to see something faltering at short, we got to dig in at short and get somebody for, you know, two years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We got to be thinking two years down the road, fill the coffers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're not super.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Does anybody even know who the Dodgers farm team is?

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, they don't.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't because they just pull MLB players and when they do go to their farm, I feel like they're savvy enough to keep those guys protected and still play them like a guy like Arjun coming up with a J.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like does his career path match up with Boba Shets twilight?

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[SPEAKER_03]: moving into a DH and allowing Arjun to take over that position.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it almost writes itself.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like Arjun is three years away from being a legit major leader, maybe two.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I have JoJo not too far behind him too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: JoJo's not too far behind him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, it's, for that's the athleticism you draft.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You draft athletes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's, if you go back,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you can talk about the Dodgers and the Dodgers obviously have signed some players spent a lot of money and understand that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in order, if we go back the last five or six years, what had the Dodgers been, they've been a tremendous ball club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that also indicates that they're doing a lot of things right outside of just signing players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing a lot of things right in development, drafting, and so forth and so on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: don't want to take anything away from them, but you've got to also, if you come back to the blue chase, to get to where they are today, they've done a lot of things right as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they continue to do this, which I believe they will, they're going to be in the next five or six years, we'll be looking back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, I think we have the chance to look back at them and say, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were just as good, if not better than the Dodgers,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I really think that's what we're looking at today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really, really do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I got a couple other questions here in the front and with the fan chat and everything.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Our buddy Pet Pie P. First off, wouldn't mind hearing, like I put it up, I forgot I'm on the right screen this time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Wouldn't mind hearing where Rans thinks manningly goes and in what situation?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, this is your old adversary, a guy that we obviously got to enjoy for a couple of seasons here in Toronto.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What do you think's up next for Donnie baseball?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to assume that he definitely wants to stay in baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would think like a life or I really don't see him taking his hat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think not having thought through the process of what opportunities may be in terms of managing a team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a strong possibility that he may end up a bitch coach someplace else, or maybe in the front office, and as an assistant to a GM or something of that nature.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was my thoughts because he's just got such a great baseball mind go Jason you want to hear a really bold prediction oh here you know where I think he's going to end up I think he's going to end up in Oakland so that when they make the transfer over to Vegas and make a big to do out of it they've got I mean they are going to be pulling names from everywhere to add to that team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that team is going to have a completely different look.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to have a different feel.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The stadium is going to be bonkers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're going to be dumping money into that thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And if there's one guy who seems to always have a decent draw when you're talking about, you know, baseball icons that are still on the bench, I mean, I got to think that that's where he's going to end up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe he doesn't need to turn around.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, maybe he does a year somewhere else or or the A's take them into.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, you can't, you're not supposed to say Oakland anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know that, right, is supposed to be the sex Sacramento.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I still call them the Oakland.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I say it's going to be Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But you know, that may be a call on the not so Oakland days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That may be a possibility.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, who knows?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely think Donnie's going to end up somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I think Donnie is in a position.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to where he can be selective, I believe, as to where he wants to go, and I definitely feel like there's going to be some good options there for him, because I think not only was it great player, we, that speaks for itself, but I think he's a person of character and what he

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[SPEAKER_01]: is goes far beyond what he accomplished as a player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a really good baseball man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he is just a top notch individual to go with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what you want to bring in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to bring in that guy that has those individual qualities that are going to be a positive for your organization.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So what was it like playing across the diamond from that gentleman all those years?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he was fun to watch and he was a challenge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I always enjoyed play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you enjoy the challenge of playing against people like Donnie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will say this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His work ethic, his approach to the game, the way he played the game, as somebody who played against him, had great admiration and respect for just the way he went about his profession.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously it was a tremendous

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[SPEAKER_01]: To get me to go beyond the stats, you just appreciate it, the way he played the game.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So speaking of some of that was you had this a little bit more pleasure seeing a little bit more off and then at least every other couple weeks out with the Yankees.

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[SPEAKER_04]: One of our fan questions was, if your buddy Dave's Steve,

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[SPEAKER_04]: was playing a little south of the border.

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[SPEAKER_04]: How many saiyan awards do you think that fine man would have been playing in?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because he was incredible to watch.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And you had a front row seat to see one of the best pictures in Blue J's history.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's because, obviously, you've got to have a great season or two, maybe three or four in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it becomes a little bit subjective.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because you know, people that those that have a vote to determine who wins a salmion, there you have that factor, which is, I mean, you can't disregard that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a big factor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I, you know, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would really be guessing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he pitched for several years for a great ball club in Toronto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never was given a salmion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there were probably, if we look back and I'm drawn,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't give you specific numbers, but I think we can look at our friend, Brooke, who is the math magician, what she is.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She was, she was saying, if you were judging by current day statistics, the way they basically judge everything that you want to sign up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, it's easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I would also say this is probably during the course of Dave's career, where he had seasons, that whoever was given the sign on awarded the sign on award,

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[SPEAKER_01]: didn't have the year that Dave did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thousand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, yeah, if you compare him to today, oh my goodness, yeah, you know, the number of earnings pitch, the complete games, the ERA, et cetera.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it like that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry that a float was pitching the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he'd have probably been, you know, five, six innings and he'd been out of the ball game, even though he would still be throwing the baseball great.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, and that's just not the way the game's played anymore as a shame because you don't get to see those kind of things like you see with Dave and if he was pitching on six innings were, you know, games for he would have pitched those arm fell off and it was probably 50s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, you know, I like I think I've mentioned before, the one thing about this hundred pitch count, whatever it may be, I think it has stifled a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there are guys that are horses that can they can go out there and throw 130 35 sometimes 140 and then come back five days later and they're fine and that's kind of part of it that I don't like because there are some stallions and some horses that can give you a lot of innings and are very durable and I think that the way the game is approached today in terms of starting pitching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's limited that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In other words, it hasn't in some instances, I believe, allow some starting pitchers to ultimately fulfill their potential and that's just my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_04]: To that point, I'm sure it was a pleasure being a third or short or wherever you ended up playing that day behind it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was, it was like the play behind me, but you know, back to my opinion, like I like to say $45 in my opinion about you cup coffee, anywhere in town.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can take that for what it's worth.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Good deal.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, Jason, I feel like you haven't let you talk a minute here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You gotta get something in before the end of the episode, bud.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Here on mute.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I feel like, you know, I feel like we've talked about a lot of super positive things I feel like, you know, I feel like this is what, you know, and I appreciate there's there's a couple of hundred people, you know, million about in the, in the chats and in the different parts of this, which come in for an off season, you know, podcast about the blue jazins.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's just awesome.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know it's probably mostly rants.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not me or Craig, but, um, I mean, I don't know if it's just a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I just we don't have our celebrity of our own this for tonight.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we don't have our celebrity.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you want it?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you want to talk about the giveaway first or do you want to wait for?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to make sure everybody got their points in here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, I got my points in.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I got my fill.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Of course.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I could listen to ransom for 10 more hours.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I got a Christmas party to get through tonight.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So on that note, rants and everybody, we did have this wonderful giveaway for this and I did roll the dice for our wonderful 287 followers on the subscriptions for our YouTube channel that we're now finally paying attention to our YouTube channel.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, so on that note, make sure you, um, you know, head over there, get that clicks.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You had a, you know, we haven't been pushing that one for a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And we're trying to get that all set up a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And we're going to be given how to giveaways for the next few weeks, including a Josh Donaldson bit signed autograph off from my personal collection.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's for our 500's.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was his birthday this week.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was his birthday this week.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The MVP.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So ringer of rain.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yep, Scotty, Marisi, you are the proud new owner of this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So make, I'm going to be studying you on our YouTube channels.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's, Scotty, M-O-R-I-S-S-E-Y-895 on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You are the proud new owner of this wonderful BlueJay's bottle cap sign that is the size of my head.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, good deal.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But anyway, I've got to give you a way to get one story out of rants before we run off with Jason.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If you've got a pop smoke run off,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I I figure I can talk about giveaway number two, and then if you guys want to keep going you can keep going.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So give away in every group.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we're trying to do the the the Jay birdy days of Christmas and hopefully we've got something for the end of the end for all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I a little while ago Had a really great call with Paul and John from backyard bats.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They are a company that was founded in Windsor, Ontario.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They also have an office in the US.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They make really high quality bats.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know that Davis Snyder, gladi, if you're the other days, we're using their bats this year, Cassie and Anos from the Philly's hit a couple of home runs with a backyard this year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So they have supplied me with a beautiful,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Super unique, one of a kind tie-died backyard bats 11 and a half infielders glove.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So this is the prize right here and what we will do is Craig and I will give it away later this week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's like some follows, baby.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We want people smashing those buttons and the more people that can get in there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But we'll give this away this week and then we'll get it out to you as quick as we can.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So of course, like, in typical fashion, we always got into a joke here because that's how we do our shows.

01:00:03.627 --> 01:00:08.214
[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't know if you guys have seen the wonderful Ryan Reynolds commercial yet.

01:00:08.755 --> 01:00:12.840
[SPEAKER_04]: That has been floating around the internet, but if you see this somehow nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my god.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that's my BlueJay fandom.

01:00:16.626 --> 01:00:19.570
[SPEAKER_04]: Just it's incredibly for how the world series ended.

01:00:19.550 --> 01:00:20.912
[SPEAKER_04]: and I'm going to play it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to put the audio on and obviously we'll just chat on it here for a second.

01:00:25.499 --> 01:00:27.902
[SPEAKER_04]: I just got to hurry up and click some buttons in the right fashion here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And it's for charity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the best part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Ryan Reynolds here.

01:00:36.475 --> 01:00:41.903
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, ever since we started making our annual video to raise money for sick kids, hospital, and Toronto a few years ago.

01:00:42.123 --> 01:00:46.890
[SPEAKER_02]: I've heard from so many generous Canadians offering a co-star that we actually

01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:48.200
[SPEAKER_02]: We actually have a weight list.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In this year, well, it just happens to be the pride of Ontario and Los Angeles.

01:00:54.987 --> 01:00:58.431
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right, Mr. Freddie Freeman.

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[UNKNOWN]: This is a business, this is a business.

01:00:59.252 --> 01:01:14.127
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this is a business, this

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[SPEAKER_05]: really got some nerve coming here.

01:01:17.059 --> 01:01:24.288
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, I just wanted to visit because I'm just so happy and so proud of how you feel.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Go back to your son, Johnny.

01:01:25.870 --> 01:01:26.571
[SPEAKER_05]: He's glad to be here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You really, really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have love what you guys are doing here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go, Blue Day.

01:01:35.443 --> 01:01:37.405
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go, Blue Day.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go, Blue Day.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go, Blue Day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I asked, I asked him in March, what are the odds?

01:01:50.834 --> 01:01:52.720
[SPEAKER_02]: Donnie, before midnight on December 24th.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And our friends, they're going to match donations up to $1 million.

01:02:01.930 --> 01:02:11.244
[SPEAKER_04]: So what a wonderful this way to just sum up Toronto Blue Jace fan them to end out 20 25 with a great cause and could it be any fun here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just love that Freddy's fry framing with such a good sport even do that and just kind of take one on the chin while he's the champion even with the sick kids as I was.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Brilliant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that I love the comment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, holzer.

01:02:24.982 --> 01:02:26.969
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, do you even lift pro?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I mean, come on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's so funny, just the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It really is like I have to appreciate the fact that Ryan Reynolds is an absolute comedic genius.

01:02:38.279 --> 01:02:46.506
[SPEAKER_03]: But at some point, someone on his team or himself thought, he'll be really funny if we drag Freddie back here and made fun of him right after they won.

01:02:46.667 --> 01:02:48.288
[SPEAKER_03]: Which is probably exactly what he did.

01:02:48.568 --> 01:02:55.895
[SPEAKER_03]: He probably just phoned him and he'd like, hey, we got an idea and Freddie, no way in Freddie, was like, I'm on it, I'll be on the next flight tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Game on.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was, that was great.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That was great.

01:03:00.699 --> 01:03:02.421
[SPEAKER_04]: I said, got I'm down a joke, Rans.

01:03:02.561 --> 01:03:03.982
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not what I'm gonna do.

01:03:04.002 --> 01:03:04.403
[SPEAKER_04]: That was great.

01:03:04.423 --> 01:03:06.885
[SPEAKER_04]: Mr. Motivational Speaker.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Go ahead, Jay.

01:03:10.523 --> 01:03:15.080
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm going to make sure I give Rances last moment here and we'll talk it out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Rats, great to see you, everybody.

01:03:16.103 --> 01:03:16.686
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you soon.

01:03:16.726 --> 01:03:17.207
[SPEAKER_03]: See you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If I don't say Rats first.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

01:03:22.149 --> 01:03:36.343
[SPEAKER_04]: So, Rans, I got to give you your last few minutes or a minute here just to tell everybody once again where they can find you what you're up to and my one buddy, our sponsor, our friend of Jay Birdie wants to hear about the five seas really quick.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The five seas?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, your motivational speaking career in what you're up to these days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

01:03:48.732 --> 01:04:08.690
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I have the website at rentsballonx.com and to boil it down, the message is that the core of the message is the challenge of change and the significance in how I can impact all of our lives.

01:04:10.091 --> 01:04:16.917
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to have, for me, you have to have passion, you have to have a burning, burning

01:04:17.369 --> 01:04:21.755
[SPEAKER_01]: have to be able to take on and accept change within his necessary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the one thing that I've experienced in my life as a professional athlete and post my playing career, not only for me personally, but with others, is the most difficult challenge that comes along for most of us, I believe, is change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because change can be very difficult, freely number of reasons.

01:04:41.985 --> 01:04:46.431
[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes that may just simply mean

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[SPEAKER_01]: to where we want to go and achieve our goals.

01:04:53.222 --> 01:04:57.330
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes we, oh, I think it's natural to think as an athlete, we got to change something physically.

01:04:57.851 --> 01:05:04.563
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes we need to change maybe the way we think our thought process about hitting or pitching or whatever it may be.

01:05:06.286 --> 01:05:09.752
[SPEAKER_01]: But what I think goes,

01:05:12.010 --> 01:05:30.913
[SPEAKER_01]: Untold or maybe unrecognized is the fact that sometimes we have to change some things about ourselves in order to be the person that we need to be to accomplish our goals and that's my core message and I hope that resonates with people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's my goal.

01:05:32.686 --> 01:05:39.012
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, as something I played baseball for a million years, and also has to do a way too much change every day to figure out what the hell I'm actually doing.

01:05:39.512 --> 01:05:40.873
[SPEAKER_04]: I completely hear you.

01:05:41.754 --> 01:05:42.014
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

01:05:42.034 --> 01:06:00.951
[SPEAKER_01]: So it because I think that's something the last part of that message is something that I think oftentimes gets missed is sometimes we have to change some things about

01:06:01.252 --> 01:06:03.203
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if we don't, we'll never get there.

01:06:03.967 --> 01:06:08.292
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is probably the most difficult challenge of all.

01:06:08.609 --> 01:06:09.590
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree with you, my friend.

01:06:10.151 --> 01:06:11.992
[SPEAKER_04]: So thank you very much for joining us.

01:06:12.113 --> 01:06:15.156
[SPEAKER_04]: You will always have a microphone ready for you here.

01:06:15.176 --> 01:06:19.880
[SPEAKER_04]: Whenever you want to come and join us and talk more BlueJays and baseball stories in general, we love having you.

01:06:20.321 --> 01:06:23.965
[SPEAKER_04]: And I know Liz was a little upset that she had a holiday party, so she didn't.

01:06:24.005 --> 01:06:26.047
[SPEAKER_04]: She missed out her time to chit chat with you this evening.

01:06:26.067 --> 01:06:27.648
[SPEAKER_04]: So we're going to have to have you back again.

01:06:28.449 --> 01:06:31.612
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, at any time, I enjoy it.

01:06:31.973 --> 01:06:34.275
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, I love to talk baseball.

01:06:34.675 --> 01:06:36.237
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a passion-minded.

01:06:36.217 --> 01:06:41.107
[SPEAKER_01]: and hopefully I can pass along something positive that helps somebody else.

01:06:42.129 --> 01:06:42.911
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Achieve whatever their personal goals may be.

01:06:45.957 --> 01:06:46.859
[SPEAKER_01]: And I appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Merry Christmas to everybody and look forward to see what happens the end of this week and with the jays and going forward.

01:06:53.952 --> 01:06:55.215
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's going to be a crazy end of the week.

01:06:55.255 --> 01:07:03.154
[SPEAKER_04]: I have a, it feels like we're on the precipice is something done it like something this is going to just go boom and then we're going to have like a whole new crazy line up or something.

01:07:04.397 --> 01:07:05.920
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we, we made so.

01:07:06.462 --> 01:07:11.674
[SPEAKER_01]: As we all know through experience lots of times when it gets right down to the.

01:07:12.278 --> 01:07:16.985
[SPEAKER_01]: last few hours of the winter meetings, things start to happen very rapidly.

01:07:17.065 --> 01:07:18.828
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's keep them usually.

01:07:18.868 --> 01:07:19.730
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's been a long time.

01:07:19.750 --> 01:07:20.891
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's been a long time.

01:07:20.911 --> 01:07:21.552
[SPEAKER_04]: It's been a long time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's been a long time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think too.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So there is that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So thank you again, Rans.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I got to also thank our wonderful sponsors, our friend Darrell and everybody at J. Birdie Baseball Company.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Head over to J. Birdie Baseball Company website.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Get those holiday wonderful centred pine tree hats that Liz was modeling off.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Make sure you hit the promo code for Jaybird pod 15 and you're going to nice little discount in your pocket too.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So always actually a little nice to have a little extra.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to use to spend this time here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Good deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I happy new year to everybody and let's do it again soon.

01:07:56.439 --> 01:07:56.859
[SPEAKER_04]: Sounds good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Rans will talk to you soon.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Cheers everybody and have a great night.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see you next week with former Major League pitcher Zach Loots.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Have a great week.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Cheers.

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